protective and to try to reduce the risk to the public. >> philip mudd, what would be you be trying to find out from the surviving bomber? what would you be asking him? >> when you look at what america is focused on, what the media is focused on, they are focused on two people. two spiders, in my old world. the real question i would be having would be where is the spider web, if one exist. when we saw plots like this, 9/11, the plot in madrid, the one in london on the subway, there's a spider web around the spiders that include foreign training. in this case, there's not clear there is one, but i would be hunting that today. >> on first impressions, does it appear that this is more like a case of loners self-radicalized or that there's a spider web?